Niccolò Canepa wird Körperverletzung vorgeworfen
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Ich kann mich noch verzerrt erinnern das ein M. S aus NRW beim DM-Lauf in Most (in den 90er wars und ich meine der betroffene war Markus Ober ) mit einem Fusstritt vorsätzlich in der Auslaufrunde von seiner 125er getreten hat incl folgenden Sturz des niedergetretenen.Die Strafe von seiten der OMK war sehr milde wenns uberhaupt eine gab..
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stimmt !cosma06 hat geschrieben:Ich kann mich noch verzerrt erinnern das ein M. S aus NRW beim DM-Lauf in Most (in den 90er wars und ich meine der betroffene war Markus Ober ) mit einem Fusstritt vorsätzlich in der Auslaufrunde von seiner 125er getreten hat incl folgenden Sturz des niedergetretenen.Die Strafe von seiten der OMK war sehr milde wenns uberhaupt eine gab..
.....ja, es war der ober markus der da runtergetreten wurde und auch die strafe war zu milde.
In der Kurve kann jeder schnell fahren, auf der Geraden, da brauchst Du Leistung !
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Halbes Jahr Meisterschaftssperre? IS doch schon was...
http://www.motorradonline.de/archiv/sti ... all/186689
Ihn aber erst zum Meister zu machen um später zu sperren is wieder aller Ehren wert- deutsche Motorsportgerichtsbarkeit ist wirklich zuverlässig albern
http://www.motorradonline.de/archiv/sti ... all/186689
Ihn aber erst zum Meister zu machen um später zu sperren is wieder aller Ehren wert- deutsche Motorsportgerichtsbarkeit ist wirklich zuverlässig albern

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Nicolo Canepa Statement
The story is well known: Niccolo Canepa is accused of assault and battery, which would have caused David Cappato during a practice session at Mugello on September 23, 2013. The news and the video showing the incident sparked the comments on social. Here the long post with which Nicholas responds to their existing Facebook :
"Here I am! I'm not run away. I had to stay away from social to protect from unjust attacks and to better face the weekend of the Superbike World Championship in Malaysia. But now it's time to explain.
I do not want and can not get to the actual trial papers, as I can not list all the details of the story because my lawyer is infurierebbe, and perhaps the same will be furious. But I read so many stupid things about the incident and I want to defend myself in front of everyone before in front of the justice of the peace. And 'My Law.
Start by saying that I was sorry for the incident which Cappato was the victim that day, so much so that I immediately went to the circuit medical center (which was then discharged with 10 days of prognosis) to satisfy myself of his physical condition. He was absolutely alert and aware; we have talked; HE had to apologize for certain conduct driving and "misunderstandings", WITHOUT ANYTHING and accuse me of saying that certain things can happen on the track. In that moment she knew that I was a pilot in the World Championship, but we were only two motorcycle enthusiasts looking for a bit 'of fun on the track. His complaint to unintentional injury occurs only a few days later. Nevertheless I still maintain that he had caused no fall. And now I'll explain.
I was teaching a boy, who for the second time in his life he put the wheels of his 600 at Mugello. At that time I was the record holder of the Mugello track with regard to the Superbike and I took the opportunity to teach him a few tricks of my favorite track.
Cappato, probably, did not understand my role in that situation and therefore must have thought It was abnormal (or even provocative) the fact that sometimes I slow down girl in some points of the circuit (obviously out of course, and without obstructing as I learned at the course for instructors of the Italian Motorcycle Federation), which I used to wait for my "pupil" in that maybe I had just shown what was the right setting for a detached or a curve.
More times then, before the incident, followed dangerously Cappato trajectories completely wrong and I had passed more than once a few centimeters on the main straight at a speed very high risk contact. Mugello no joke, especially on the straight. MORE THAN ONCE rehearsing Cappato between the curves I HAD MADE THE OUTLINE OF SPEND MORE DISTANT because it was too dangerous and was risking my safety and that of my pupil, as shown on the video that you did not show. Without anger, without rancor and with confidence.
And then you get to the movie. If you remove the veil from the eyes of prejudice, you will also notice you what really happened:
Probably annoyed by my request, or perhaps not having understood the gesture of an instructor, Cappato first rears exit of Turn WHILE I WAS TURNED and off line WAIT FOR MY PUPIL, and landed a few feet from me. Then he joined squeezing on the right track moving furiously the helmet, forcing me to SLOW DOWN and creating a dangerous situation for me and for the riders that arrived at high speed, although he had a clear track ahead of him. Surprised by the action unexpected and aggressive Cappato, I saw my student in the hull that was coming very fast and immediate gesture I made was to say: STAY BACK, STAY AWAY. In order to spread quickly without creating hazardous situations.
Who says confidently that he saw in the movie that I would have "pinched" the brake lever can only do it with malice, I see that I HAVE TOUCHED THE LEVER, MY HAND He TOUCHED The FOREARM OF CAPPATO. That, perhaps because frightened, has operated with too much force the front brake and lost control of the vehicle.
That's all.
I'm really happy to see that many have understood the dynamics of this incident even before I explain to this post, which I have defended many in knowing what kind of person are despite allegations of those who enjoy a mouthful of sound bites and offenses without having the ability to look clearly beyond their nose.
I'm sad to see people who criticized me because I would be "guilty of wrongful death." Perhaps those who call themselves "bikers" should know that it is absolutely NO STOPPING ON TRACK and even worse to go back. There are the Marshall for this. Please never do !!
How I am even more disappointed to see that some journalists (thankfully few) have avoided asking information about the incident, slamming on their pages my name and a small part of the video of the incident. Journalists who do not sign and you may not remember that I am one of the few who has never had one - TELL NO ONE - sanction or censure by the International Federation. I passed the examination by certified instructor, teaching role (as we have seen that I carry out not only on paper) I'm very proud because it is the passion for bikes and not for the money that makes me love being in the saddle, and able to instruct others to get it right. And that in the past 10 years since my first race of the World Cup, including a world title, a year of MotoGP, so many victories and even defeats are NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT on track with other drivers. But now I hope that after my explanation, can spread with the same emphasis with which they published the piece of video.
Then, of course, criticism and contrary views but there will not accept THAT IS CHALLENGED MY FAIRNESS AS PILOT AND ESPECIALLY AS MAN. How I not accept attacks blind and full of prejudice to my professionalism and attacks on my person (or even my loved ones, because there have been more vulgar insults to my girlfriend or my family). And if any of my actions will always answer even before the Ordinary Justice, the same way they will answer those who have caused offense to my person
Now I can breathe a sigh of relief, in the hope that all those who accused and insulted they understand HOW THINGS REALLY ARE GONE. And I close with some advice that I've learned the hard way a few weeks ago, before judging is best to be well informed on the facts and not be fooled by a video not clear from the statements of a few cowards who hide behind a keyboard with some nickname false thinking to be omnipotent. Moreover in recent days there are those who are even fake my relative to discredit me, who wrote around that he was present at the scene by inventing special non-existent, or those who insinuated that I would be where I am paying to run or not deserve .
I'm a guy chasing their dreams, but I do it in a clean and proper. "
The story is well known: Niccolo Canepa is accused of assault and battery, which would have caused David Cappato during a practice session at Mugello on September 23, 2013. The news and the video showing the incident sparked the comments on social. Here the long post with which Nicholas responds to their existing Facebook :
"Here I am! I'm not run away. I had to stay away from social to protect from unjust attacks and to better face the weekend of the Superbike World Championship in Malaysia. But now it's time to explain.
I do not want and can not get to the actual trial papers, as I can not list all the details of the story because my lawyer is infurierebbe, and perhaps the same will be furious. But I read so many stupid things about the incident and I want to defend myself in front of everyone before in front of the justice of the peace. And 'My Law.
Start by saying that I was sorry for the incident which Cappato was the victim that day, so much so that I immediately went to the circuit medical center (which was then discharged with 10 days of prognosis) to satisfy myself of his physical condition. He was absolutely alert and aware; we have talked; HE had to apologize for certain conduct driving and "misunderstandings", WITHOUT ANYTHING and accuse me of saying that certain things can happen on the track. In that moment she knew that I was a pilot in the World Championship, but we were only two motorcycle enthusiasts looking for a bit 'of fun on the track. His complaint to unintentional injury occurs only a few days later. Nevertheless I still maintain that he had caused no fall. And now I'll explain.
I was teaching a boy, who for the second time in his life he put the wheels of his 600 at Mugello. At that time I was the record holder of the Mugello track with regard to the Superbike and I took the opportunity to teach him a few tricks of my favorite track.
Cappato, probably, did not understand my role in that situation and therefore must have thought It was abnormal (or even provocative) the fact that sometimes I slow down girl in some points of the circuit (obviously out of course, and without obstructing as I learned at the course for instructors of the Italian Motorcycle Federation), which I used to wait for my "pupil" in that maybe I had just shown what was the right setting for a detached or a curve.
More times then, before the incident, followed dangerously Cappato trajectories completely wrong and I had passed more than once a few centimeters on the main straight at a speed very high risk contact. Mugello no joke, especially on the straight. MORE THAN ONCE rehearsing Cappato between the curves I HAD MADE THE OUTLINE OF SPEND MORE DISTANT because it was too dangerous and was risking my safety and that of my pupil, as shown on the video that you did not show. Without anger, without rancor and with confidence.
And then you get to the movie. If you remove the veil from the eyes of prejudice, you will also notice you what really happened:
Probably annoyed by my request, or perhaps not having understood the gesture of an instructor, Cappato first rears exit of Turn WHILE I WAS TURNED and off line WAIT FOR MY PUPIL, and landed a few feet from me. Then he joined squeezing on the right track moving furiously the helmet, forcing me to SLOW DOWN and creating a dangerous situation for me and for the riders that arrived at high speed, although he had a clear track ahead of him. Surprised by the action unexpected and aggressive Cappato, I saw my student in the hull that was coming very fast and immediate gesture I made was to say: STAY BACK, STAY AWAY. In order to spread quickly without creating hazardous situations.
Who says confidently that he saw in the movie that I would have "pinched" the brake lever can only do it with malice, I see that I HAVE TOUCHED THE LEVER, MY HAND He TOUCHED The FOREARM OF CAPPATO. That, perhaps because frightened, has operated with too much force the front brake and lost control of the vehicle.
That's all.
I'm really happy to see that many have understood the dynamics of this incident even before I explain to this post, which I have defended many in knowing what kind of person are despite allegations of those who enjoy a mouthful of sound bites and offenses without having the ability to look clearly beyond their nose.
I'm sad to see people who criticized me because I would be "guilty of wrongful death." Perhaps those who call themselves "bikers" should know that it is absolutely NO STOPPING ON TRACK and even worse to go back. There are the Marshall for this. Please never do !!
How I am even more disappointed to see that some journalists (thankfully few) have avoided asking information about the incident, slamming on their pages my name and a small part of the video of the incident. Journalists who do not sign and you may not remember that I am one of the few who has never had one - TELL NO ONE - sanction or censure by the International Federation. I passed the examination by certified instructor, teaching role (as we have seen that I carry out not only on paper) I'm very proud because it is the passion for bikes and not for the money that makes me love being in the saddle, and able to instruct others to get it right. And that in the past 10 years since my first race of the World Cup, including a world title, a year of MotoGP, so many victories and even defeats are NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT on track with other drivers. But now I hope that after my explanation, can spread with the same emphasis with which they published the piece of video.
Then, of course, criticism and contrary views but there will not accept THAT IS CHALLENGED MY FAIRNESS AS PILOT AND ESPECIALLY AS MAN. How I not accept attacks blind and full of prejudice to my professionalism and attacks on my person (or even my loved ones, because there have been more vulgar insults to my girlfriend or my family). And if any of my actions will always answer even before the Ordinary Justice, the same way they will answer those who have caused offense to my person
Now I can breathe a sigh of relief, in the hope that all those who accused and insulted they understand HOW THINGS REALLY ARE GONE. And I close with some advice that I've learned the hard way a few weeks ago, before judging is best to be well informed on the facts and not be fooled by a video not clear from the statements of a few cowards who hide behind a keyboard with some nickname false thinking to be omnipotent. Moreover in recent days there are those who are even fake my relative to discredit me, who wrote around that he was present at the scene by inventing special non-existent, or those who insinuated that I would be where I am paying to run or not deserve .
I'm a guy chasing their dreams, but I do it in a clean and proper. "
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He he he, thanks for this ITALGLISH explanation!
Ich hatte auch erst das Video des ersten Postings gesehen und geurteilt...
Soviel zu Fehleinschätzungen!
Mal sehen was daraus wird.
Ich hatte auch erst das Video des ersten Postings gesehen und geurteilt...
Soviel zu Fehleinschätzungen!
Mal sehen was daraus wird.
Hier geht's zum Original
Wheelbagz Rädertaschen!

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Ich hoffe mal, dass es davon mal eine - wenigstens halbwegs - verständliche Version gibt. Ich verstehe nämlich nicht viel.
Evtl. hat jemand Bock, dass mal in ein paar kurzen Sätzen zusammenzufassen. Auf dt. natürlich.
Wäre echt nett...
Evtl. hat jemand Bock, dass mal in ein paar kurzen Sätzen zusammenzufassen. Auf dt. natürlich.
Wäre echt nett...
Grüssle, Die Wurst....
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In meinen Augen ist jedoch er derjenige, der die anderen Teilnehmer durch sein langsamer werden bereits in der Kurve gefährdet, darüber scheint sich der Cappato auch aufzuregen. Von abdrängen kann jedenfalls keine Rede sein, und meine Augen sagen mir immernoch, dass er nicht sanft gegen den Unterarm drückt, sondern auf Bremse, Hand oder Unterarm draufschlagt in einer rückwärts gerichteten Bewegung.Er sagt er war als Instruktor unterwegs und hat abgebremst um auf seinen Schützling zu warten, der andere Fahrer ist dann neben ihn gefahren und wollte ihn abdrängen, darauf hat er selbstlos zum Schutz Anderer mit hoher Geschwindigkeit herrannahender Teilnehmer versucht dem anderen an den Unterarm zu fassen um ihm zu signalisieren, dass er abstand halten soll. Dieser hat dann aus Schreck die Bremse zu fest gezogen.
Da haben seine Flossen aber rein garnichts zu suchen, als hochgradig berufener Instruktor sollte er das wissen.
Der ganze Text stinkt nur so nach rausreden und rumdruxen, sodass ich das ganze für wenig Glaubhaft erachte.
Ich bleib dabei, das ist einem Profi nicht würdig und gehört hart bestraft!
MfG Christian
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Soll er tatsächlich versucht haben den anderen am Unterarm zu fassen?techam hat geschrieben:In meinen Augen ist jedoch er derjenige, der die anderen Teilnehmer durch sein langsamer werden bereits in der Kurve gefährdet, darüber scheint sich der Cappato auch aufzuregen. Von abdrängen kann jedenfalls keine Rede sein, und meine Augen sagen mir immernoch, dass er nicht sanft gegen den Unterarm drückt, sondern auf Bremse, Hand oder Unterarm draufschlagt in einer rückwärts gerichteten Bewegung.Er sagt er war als Instruktor unterwegs und hat abgebremst um auf seinen Schützling zu warten, der andere Fahrer ist dann neben ihn gefahren und wollte ihn abdrängen, darauf hat er selbstlos zum Schutz Anderer mit hoher Geschwindigkeit herrannahender Teilnehmer versucht dem anderen an den Unterarm zu fassen um ihm zu signalisieren, dass er abstand halten soll. Dieser hat dann aus Schreck die Bremse zu fest gezogen.
Da haben seine Flossen aber rein garnichts zu suchen, als hochgradig berufener Instruktor sollte er das wissen.
Der ganze Text stinkt nur so nach rausreden und rumdruxen, sodass ich das ganze für wenig Glaubhaft erachte.
Ich bleib dabei, das ist einem Profi nicht würdig und gehört hart bestraft!
MfG Christian
Ich habe es beim lesen der Google-Übersetzung so verstanden, dass er wohl mit der Hand "wedeln" wollte um die herannahenden von hinten zum Bremsen zu bringen bzw. vor der Gefahrensituation zu warnen - dabei ist (der später stürzende) Kollege zu nah gekommen, sein Unterarm wurde berührt und durch das zurückziehen des Arms dann der Bremshebel gezogen...

Trotzdem seltsam dass ein "ausgebildeter Instruktor MIT Zulassung" (wie er es ja mehrfach erwähnt hat) immer wieder so weit von seinem Schützling weg fährt und dann auf ihn wartet.
Was bringt der ihm dadurch bei? In ordentlicher Demut zu verharren beim Hergebrannt werden?

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So, und das ganze noch mal in Verbindung mit dem Video -
Es mag ja zu erkennen sein, dass er vorher wedelt (ob die Hintermänner
zu warnen oder Cappato zu zeigen, was er von ihm hält).
Ein Wedeln erkenne ich aber bei Sekunde 13-14 definitiv nicht.
Handbewegung von Caneppá, Vorderrad von Cappato klappt ohne
Kommentar ein:
http://www.speedweek.com/sbk/news/79185 ... orfen.html
Es mag ja zu erkennen sein, dass er vorher wedelt (ob die Hintermänner
zu warnen oder Cappato zu zeigen, was er von ihm hält).
Ein Wedeln erkenne ich aber bei Sekunde 13-14 definitiv nicht.
Handbewegung von Caneppá, Vorderrad von Cappato klappt ohne
Kommentar ein:
http://www.speedweek.com/sbk/news/79185 ... orfen.html
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Da fällt mir ein Spruch aus dem English Unterricht ein....
All enemies are equal.... - but some are more...
Egal wie, selbst zum beruhigen, packt niemals nie jemanden an den Lenker oder unterarm oder gibt es vergleichbares das das üblich ist?
All enemies are equal.... - but some are more...
Egal wie, selbst zum beruhigen, packt niemals nie jemanden an den Lenker oder unterarm oder gibt es vergleichbares das das üblich ist?